So, the fearless David Fagin, who is simultaneously a Writer, musician, Trump Resister, food snob, is also the author of this little jem published at HuffingtonPost:
Becoming A Racist: The Unfortunate Side Effect Of Serving Your Country?
08/17/2017 12:18 pm ET Updated Aug 18, 2017
And so now that slobbering fucktard deserves a good fisking. Don’t get excited Dave, I wrote FISKING, not FISTING. In case you are like others on the left, fisking is when someone thoroughly and amusingly points out the deficiencies in your words and logic. This is actually rather easy for me, because the only logic I found came in fallacy form.
In an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Vice News’ Elle Reeve mentions that security for the neo-Nazis was not provided by the Charlottesville police, as one might expect, but by veterans of the Iraq/Afghan war.
To hear that these veterans claim they were ‘radicalized’ in Iraq and Afghanistan during their tours of duty is one of the more unfortunate things to come to light regarding the side-effects of serving your country.
By now, we’re all familiar with PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) and even with proper treatment, the debilitating state it can leave a returning soldier in, sometimes for the rest of their lives.
But to learn that these brave men and women over there return with a new-found hatred for those different from them, especially after their mission is one of liberation from those who kill and persecute anyone of different faiths/beliefs, is quite disturbing to say the least.
Look David, by now you are clearly not familiar with PTSD or you wouldn’t have made the classic Dunning-Kruger mistake of saying that we are all clearly familiar with PTSD. Is it the kind with anxiety? Or the kind with depression? Or the kind with anger issues? The self destructive kind? The mix of everything kind? No you simian fuckwit, “we” are not all familiar with PTSD.
Secondly, “to learn that these brave men and women over there return with a new-found hatred for those different from them…” is simply a logical fallacy called “begging the question.” You made your idiotic hypothesis that military service in a war zone makes you side with Nazis. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, an oath to support and defend the Constitution, might include those parts you don’t like such as a Nazi’s right to free speech? I know, veterans still defending other Americans right to exercise their Constitutional rights seems like a radical and crazy idea, but just try it on for size. Maybe the phrase, “I hate everything you say, but will defend with my life your right to say it.” still actually means something to some people.
Thirdly, just where the fuck do you think Soldiers come from? For decades now they’ve been mostly white Southern boys in the Infantry with smatterings from other parts of “flyover country” mixed in. Them country boys don’t give a gnats ass what the hell some trump resisting food snob thinks, and more than a few are pissed about the campaign to tear down statues and start rewriting history. While others are fighting statue destroying ISIS in the middle east, others are fighting statue destroying extremists here.
But to think that even a small portion of them are returning from duty harboring feelings of such intense anger and disgust toward anyone who isn’t white, leads one to believe the military isn’t doing enough in the area of outreach, post-discharge. After all, not every soldier returns with a desire to protect and defend those with beliefs and convictions that stand in direct contrast to everything our military has fought against, and fights against as we speak. But, however small the percentage is, running security for white supremacists is quite a unique avenue regarding symptoms/display of PTSD, and these individuals obviously need help.
Most of us know someone, either a friend or relative, who’s returned home from the Middle East suffering from PTSD. And, tragically, most of us know someone who’s not been given the help and assistance they deserve from the country they’ve fought to defend.
Once again, this is a logical fallacy about the intent of people David first heard about on Anderson Cooper. This is pure fucking “mind reading” fallacy on David’s part, because unless he has some magical powers to look into the soul and motivation of people he has never even met, much less know any of their names, then he needs to shut the hell up and sit down.
Seriously, you don’t know and most of your friends don’t know anyone, friend or relative, who has served. Sure there are millions of veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, and if you actually KNEW any of them you’d find that the ones passionate enough about either free speech or Nazi ideology are still a pretty distinct minority. And David, you never bothered to figure out if those armed veterans were armed for civil rights or for Nazi ideology, because you are a lazy sack of shit excuse for a human being.
The utter failure by our so-called Commander-in-Chief to condemn these hate groups has prompted the leaders of our armed forces to do the unthinkable, to step out of rank with the president and speak out against it, themselves. And, while their action is commendable, the military needs to focus their attention on treating this new type of expression of their trauma, as, although returning from battle steadfast in the “Us vs. Them” mentality is nothing new, taking a job as security guard for neo-nazis, is.
Except not. Had “AntiFa” not bothered to show up with their silly counter protest nothing bad would have happened, the President was very much in the correct saying that there was blame on both sides, the International Socialist Fascists and the National Fascists were both to blame.
There is only one side to this fence, and to think we’re not only welcoming home members of the armed forces whose opinions and beliefs have been shattered and damaged due to their perilous environment, but who find solace in a President willing to condone those twisted beliefs, rather than make it his mission to do everything he can to help them, makes one worry about where the next Charlottesville will be, and who, exactly, we’ll be fighting.
You know what Gell-Mann Amnesia is? It’s when a reader forgets that the author just discredited himself with an “us versus them” denouncement by immediately, in the very next paragraph, declaring there is only “one side to this fence” and tacitly admitting that he plans on fighting some other side…. It’s a level of absurdity and failure of self awareness that unfortunately passes for leadership on the Left these days.
Seriously David, don’t pick fights with veterans. That’s a penny’s worth of free advice that you really should take to heart.